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DS Daily: How do you homebrew?

So we already found out who is and isn't into homebrew, but for those of you who are -- what do you like? Dislike? We're curious about your favorite hardware selections are. What have you found to be reliable and worth the money ... and what needs AVOID, AVOID, AVOID stamped across its packaging?

For those of you who confessed to not knowing what to do when it comes to homebrew, we're gearing up for a series of features on the subject, which is part of why we're looking for recommendations from our favorite fanboys. So bear with us a little longer. For you salty dogs ... tell us what works for you!

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Ibrahim21

1-20-2007 @ 8:42PM

Ibrahim said...

So the slot1 cards can run homebrew? I've heard comflicting reports on that before. I'm not sure whether I want to get the SCDS or a superkey and SC Lite. I think SCDS is less expensive and slot1, but I want to make sure I can run DSOrganize and other homebrew. DSO looks the most interesting to me, and moonshell, and then some other stuff like aim and irc. Both of those use microSD, correct? Which would be a better choice for running homebrew, not roms (I want to support game developers, although I'm not against "trying" out a game before buying)? Price is a big factor, since I'll have to get this after FFIII DS, Wii, and TP and I only get $100/month from tutoring.

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Aaron22

1-20-2007 @ 9:03PM

Aaron said...

I have 2 mini sd cards (not micro) and 2 regular SD cards, im wanting to get into the homebrew scene and i would like to use something that will use either of the two mentioned sd cards but preferably not having something stick out of the button of my lite with a GBA cartridge. any ideas?

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JM23

1-21-2007 @ 12:30AM

JM said...

I use the big wonking M3 that sticks out like 2 inches from the bottom of my ds lite and accepts an sd card. Never had any problem with homebrew roms.

You have to keep in mind that while most homebrew games and apps are tiny (at least in comparison with commercial roms), if you ever want to do anything with media (mp3s, movies, etc), you are going to need something that uses some sort of sd card storage.

The firmware the M3 runs has a sweet built in mp3 player and a movie player and text reader, which is very cool, and I have had no problem with DSO and DSAIM, although I couldn't get the email client to run without crashing.

I am on a mac, btw, but the conversion software unfortunately only runs in windows. I am using parallels at the moment (purchased by work), but it should work fine with bootcamp and winXP. I *was* able to get it to work with virtual PC, but it was really crashy for some reason.

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20XX24

1-21-2007 @ 1:42AM

20XX said...

I'd like to add a second (unofficial) question: if you've got a homebrew-enabling device that you enjoy, where did you get it, and for how much?

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adam25

1-21-2007 @ 4:48AM

adam said...

I know this is probably frowned upon, but what works best for snes games? playing classics like earthbound and chrono trigger on the go, would be completely worth buying the stuff needed.

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Ethan Duffy26

1-21-2007 @ 7:04AM

Ethan Duffy said...

If you've got a Mac, choose one with a card slot (e.g. supercard) rather than inbuilt ram (e.g. G6). Then there's no hardware to be concerned with, just copying files to the card. Both should work though.

As for applications, movies have to be converted to a proprietary format to play on the homebrew player called 'Moonshell' you can download, and I don't know of a converter for the mac.

I own a Supercard lite and replaced the firmware with FlashMe v7.

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Adam27

1-21-2007 @ 10:06AM

Adam said...

Super card SD rumble ver

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hinges28

1-21-2007 @ 2:33PM

hinges said...

I'm using the M3SD Slim and a PassCard. I considered getting a smaller Slot-2 device, so it wouldn't hang out the mouth of my black Lite but I wanted one that took regular SD cards, as I already had a 1GB SanDisk Ultra II, which folds in half to reveal a built in USB plug.

@David, if those are regular SD cards, then there's no way you can use them with a device that doesn't hang out... Both Slot-1 and Slot-2 on the DS Lite are too small to fit an SD card in. If protruding cartridges is a big problem, look at something that takes a microSD card.

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David29

1-21-2007 @ 5:20PM

David said...

Ok, well what the cheapest with decent quailty option i have then, i really dont want to buy more falsh mem cards so i might bite the bullet and just buy one that sticks out. What set up do you guys reccomend then and where can i buy it?

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Shane30

1-21-2007 @ 8:18PM

Shane said...

@20. David

The only way you can use those SD cards you already have is by using an M3 or supercard, you're inevitably going to have a GBA style cart sticking out the bottom.

The only way to get around that is using something like the M3 Perfect Lite which uses MicroSD cards.

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Andy Robertson31

1-22-2007 @ 8:29AM

Andy Robertson said...

#Alisha I agree with your sentiments on comment 14. The insular world of my DS opened up once I discovered this whole community of users who were doing amazing and creative things with their handhelds.

It felt much akin to a classic car owners club, where people were willing to help each other out getting started and swap tips and tweaks to get things running. There are even folks who have obviously spent hours customising their DS cases. I love the references these often make to classic Nintendo franchises.

When I finally jumped in and bought a Supercard SD I wasn't disappointed. The sheer variety and breadth of games, emulators and applications is breath taking, and growing by the day.

The thing that had kept me away from the homebrew scene was the implicit use of homebrew cards to run pirated games. This is an unfortunate cross-over for the homebrew community and raises difficult questions for us.

I think that although initially pirating muddied the homebrew waters and kept plenty of blogs away from covering homebrew, the amount of good free software now means that the scene has carved its own (legal) space in the DS cannon.

I now have a number of sites I can check daily to discover updated or new additions to the homebrew family. I'm even tempted to don my programming cap and have a bash at creating something myself. It is this desire to get involved that is the best evidence of a compelling a meaningful community.

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jt32

1-22-2007 @ 2:06PM

jt said...

Everyone b!tches about the DS-X, but I've had one for about a month now and have NO complaints. Sure, it's storage is restrained to 512mb, but I've never had a problem holding what I want on there (about a hundred NES games, 10 ds games, plus some music). And with it's drag n drop USB support, it takes seconds to swap out files from a folder on my pc straight to the DS-X.

Oh...and the Dancing LED's are a trip.

Only complaint is lack of GBA rom support.

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Xan33

1-22-2007 @ 2:28PM

Xan said...

I use a ye olde Supercard CF to GBA adapter, and no superkey rubbish because i've hooked my DS up with flashme v.7 which I find to be an awesome set up, I have no trouble with the altered firmware at all.

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actionjackson34

1-23-2007 @ 12:18PM

actionjackson said...

is there one homebrew solution that uses the sony memory stick pro duo. i have one left over from my psp days and i use it for my camera, and i'm just trying to save some cash from buying a new sd

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poploser35

1-24-2007 @ 6:10PM

poploser said...

I got a DS-X card last week, in hopes that it would bring awesome NES and SNES emulation to my DS. Thus far, that experience has been a little underwhelming, but I'm sure someone will perfect it eventually.

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Dana36

1-25-2007 @ 12:46AM

Dana said...

I use an M3 Lite W/ 1 GB Micro SD and a Passcard 3. It works flawlessly with all the homebrew and roms out there. Copying and formatting works flawlessly. Very much worth the money.

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Lucien Takar37

3-15-2007 @ 1:09AM

Lucien Takar said...

No one seems to have the Ninjapass. I just bought it but haven't received it in the mail yet. Does anyone have any info about it?

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Lucien Takar38

3-15-2007 @ 1:10AM

Lucien Takar said...

No one seems to have the Ninjapass. I just bought it but haven't received it in the mail yet. Does anyone have any info about it?

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Gil39

3-15-2007 @ 5:59PM

Gil said...

R4DS is the best (as is the M3 which is the SAME exact cart). I paid $45 + $12 for a 1GB micro SD from Amazon. So. Freaking. Rad.

Return the Ninjapass and get this. As mentioned above, it is slot-1 and it comes with a MicroSD adapter to plug into your USB slot on a Mac(!) or a PC. It's even skinnable.

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Rommel Regadio40

3-17-2007 @ 10:03AM

Rommel Regadio said...

Hi, i have a slot-1 device which is the m3 simply which i bought from http://www.gamersection.ca and bought a 1 gig Kingston micro-sd card for 37$ from a computer store which is probly 10-20 dollars off.. and uhh lots of games and music =D.. enjoying it alot, real recommended i'm looking for a slot 2 device for the gba cart. and looking for one about 40 bucks or below... just add or email at [email protected] .. thanks!

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