the hylian shield in ocarina was used by adult link, whereas the hero's shield in majora's mask is used by young link, which is why they aren't the same.

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You get the Hylian shield as a child in OoT though.

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@ 9
Hey, KOBOB

Last time I checked, Scientology wasn't one of the world's major religions. I also wouldn't think most people would know the symbols for it either. Christianity being singled out... fyi, certain symbols were removed from remakes of Ocarina of time to prevent controversy from the Muslim religion. Start thinking practically and perhaps doing some research before posting.

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I just wanted to point out that almost all commonly held symbols are in one way or another religious to someone, even the most seemingly innocuous. I mean, the lobster corresponds to the zodiac sign of cancer (and the stars were always the friends and allies of sailors). does that mean that LOZPH will be set in ancient greece? will we visit thermopyliae and yell out "this is spartaaaaaaaa!"?

as for the christian symbols the cross probably had less to do with christ and more to do with the knights templar which to most people are exemplary of knighthood.
if N had left the cross there hard core christians would have a fit... a christian hero in a land of dragons, demons, non human creatures and Gods? yeah... sounds a bit like the bible. you'd be missing a unicorn in there.

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If you look closely, you'll see the triangle on the bottom of the oot sheild is missing from the one in twilight princess. That was because some fans thought it represented a "fourth triforce". (Which is sort of an oxymoron)

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You can hear the original Fire Temple music here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDcQVzu_kc8

Islam has long been associated with a more devil-ish theme, so it isn't surprising the Japanese might have used one of their chants in the Fire Temple. The Temple of Time and other key 'shrines' have a distinctively Christian cathedral feel to them.

Early Nintendo didn't have to be as cautious of religious reference as Politically Correct Nintendo. Zelda's Triforce has obvious parallels to the Christian Trinity.

The Creation of the World segment in Zelda 64 has strong parallels to the traditional Biblical creation theory.

Kid Icarus took place in Angel Land. I would be surprised if they would have done the same thing in 2007.

Christianity is the traditional religion of the West, and Japan has been a part of that cultural tradition since World War 2 ended, so it is no surprise that they have adopted some of our culture.

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Apparently, Islam is also insinuated to be the religion of Ganondorf as well in Zelda 64. The Islamic star and crescent was originally in Zelda 64 in a few places, including on the Mirror Shield. The Mirror Shield is obtained in the level which has the two witches as a boss. Ganondorf was raised by two witches, and he is from a tribe of desert thieves.

Discussion of the differences in Zelda 64:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/file/937742/46380

Picture of original Mirror Shield:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/SwordlessLink/oldmirrorshield.jpg

Picture of replacement Mirror Shield:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/SwordlessLink/newmirrorshield.jpg

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Wasn't there a reference in "A Link to the Past" about a goddess or goddesses using the triforce to create Hyrule? If so, I think that's what the "winged creature" is representing. (it's been so long since I touched my poor snes that I barely remember the mythology of the game.) I'd have to agree with John that the "lobster" is just another stylization of the "winged figure", although the thought of a "lobster goddess" is definately amusing.:)

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Casltvina had a few crosses last time I checked *L*

Michael
you forget how "self censoring" Nintendo was,they where very keen to keep religion, sex and gore out of games.

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Actually, the re-release of ALttP has the shield look exactly like the Oracle ones.

But no, it is a lobster

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@ZippyDSMlee
in Portrait of Ruin on the top screen in file select
there is a cross with upside down bat wings. If you flip the DS upside down the wings look more natural rightside up but then the cross is upside down. satanic refrence??? possibly

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To the idiot who referenced Scientology and the triforce...

SCIENTOLOGY DOESN'T COUNT AS A RELIGION YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

And those who follow this so-called "religion" are fucked in the head. They're STUPID for believing half the shit that CULT believes.

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http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/25/46/

Thats ALTTP's shield. Just like all the other hylian shields.

So ALTTP/OOT/OOS(A)/TP shields are pretty much the same

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Did anyone notice that on the Majora's mask shield the bird figure and triforce are reversed in position?

It's interesting that in a game which takes place in a world which apparently mirrored hyrule, that even the shields symbols had been inverted.

With the triforce below the bird instead of above. Just little details like that add and carry to ideas that they introduced in the Zelda series.

Like with Phantom Hourglass, it doesn't surprise me that with a new shield he would have one that has the crawfish instead of a bird, and it makes sense with the world being more ocean then anything. And his shield reflects it in this game now.

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