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DS Daily: Cheating



It's a depressing fact that cheating will always be a part of online gaming, regardless of your platform of choice. For some time, those of weak moral fiber have been able to grant themselves infinite energy, infinite ammo, and the ability to levitate in Metroid Prime: Hunters (encouragingly, Nintendo claims it is now taking measures to prevent this), while the whole Mario Kart DS/snaking debate has rumbled on for some time (though we know of at least one Nintendo representative who would argue that the method isn't actually cheating, and we're sure many of you would concur).

Today, we'd like to hear about some of your own experiences of cheating opponents. Which games do you find attract the most online cheats, and have any of you indulged in this dark art yourselves?

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Kefka21

1-20-2008 @ 11:08PM

Kefka said...

Since the whole "snaking" issue was brought up... Snaking in itself isn't cheating, nor is it a glitch. It was discovered and left in during testing.

It's an unbalanced game feature, though. Unbalanced to the point where it effectively divides online gamers into "those who can" and "those who can't".

PRB (technique involving snaking constantly after a zipper/shroom/super start to retain the ultra speed and terrain immunity) IS a glitch though, and using it IS cheating.

Anyhow, cheaters online are a pain to be at the end of and I never do it... but if you're one of those people who say they can't understand why they do it, then you need to wake the smeg up. People like winning. People like beating other people. Whether or not you care if you do it by legal means is your own decision.

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Shad0wguy22

1-21-2008 @ 3:56PM

Shad0wguy said...

I'm afraid of what kind of hacks are going to pop up once Brawl comes out. I really hate hackers. I play Gunz, an online PC game and I see so many hackers, ranging from invincibility to lawnmower hacks. It is really pathetic that they have to use hacks to fake real skills.

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Ed23

1-24-2008 @ 1:45AM

Ed said...

Yeah, Mario Kart DS is also where I see cheaters. Many cheaters are item hackers, pulling very powerful items (star, blue shell) from first and second place.

Snaking on the other hand isn't cheating at all. It was purposely designed into the game and is used in Nintendo's own tournaments.

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Sam24

1-26-2008 @ 1:10AM

Sam said...

Meh. I rarely cheat at all. It's only like in the Pokemon games when you can't get certain Pokemon unless you go to events, which I can't. That's pretty much the extent of my cheating.

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Alex25

1-26-2008 @ 6:33PM

Alex said...

I never cheat in Mario Kart but when people cheats in it I unleashed my Action Replay and boom I win so I teach them a lesson that cheating is bad and I hope they won't cheat again on anyone who wants to play a fair match.

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Alex26

1-26-2008 @ 6:33PM

Alex said...

I never cheat in Mario Kart but when people cheats in it I unleashed my Action Replay and boom I win so I teach them a lesson that cheating is bad and I hope they won't cheat again on anyone who wants to play a fair match.

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jrhawk4227

1-26-2008 @ 8:39PM

jrhawk42 said...

Cheating, hacking, and "griefing" are at the core part of online gaming and stem from social issues. This means that society is going to have to make a significant change before games do. I feel most of it comes from the "win at any cost" mentality, and that the winner is always the best. At the risk of sounding old I'm going to say that many kids of the current generation doesn't really know how to compete with honor (some do compete w/ honor, and I commend you). Actually I can also say the same about my own generation, and even my parents generation. Many of them have been raised on the "win at any cost" mentality which is why we have so many annoying people in online gaming (even offline gaming for that matter).

Personally I play for fun (most of the time). If I'm dominating (legitimately) I'll most likely handicap myself in someway to make the game more fun for all those involved, and I'll pick a hard fought lose over a blow out win any day.

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Coppanuva28

1-27-2008 @ 9:58AM

Coppanuva said...

I've played against hackers on Mario Kart and an auto-aim bot in Metroid Prime Hunters (actually, I was talking to the guy who programmed it when he was working on it). I have hacked online once for mario kart... for the unplayable tracks to be played online. Mind you I only did it with people I knew from a forum who wanted to and were perfectly aware of it. But I still did.

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green_link29

1-31-2008 @ 8:08AM

green_link said...

i have only ever cheated in pokemon offline, never online, only for the purpose of getting event pokemon and every starter.

i was a victim of a cheater/hacker on mario kart online, he had the same character and kart as me. and when i crashed i looked up on the map and saw that he had zipped his way across to the other side of the map. he won the race of course, and when the next one came up he blasted away from the starting line so fast i barly saw his kart.

now when i go online, with mario kart, i have action replay all ready to kick cheaters as*es!

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