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DS Daily: Cheating



It's a depressing fact that cheating will always be a part of online gaming, regardless of your platform of choice. For some time, those of weak moral fiber have been able to grant themselves infinite energy, infinite ammo, and the ability to levitate in Metroid Prime: Hunters (encouragingly, Nintendo claims it is now taking measures to prevent this), while the whole Mario Kart DS/snaking debate has rumbled on for some time (though we know of at least one Nintendo representative who would argue that the method isn't actually cheating, and we're sure many of you would concur).

Today, we'd like to hear about some of your own experiences of cheating opponents. Which games do you find attract the most online cheats, and have any of you indulged in this dark art yourselves?

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Donald1

1-20-2008 @ 10:52AM

Donald said...

Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.

Most of the people who play at high levels - if they're not using simulators - freely hack max genes for their Pokemon, when it's literally supposed to be a one in a billion chance. They call the acts of breeding and raising "boring" and regard it as a minor obstacle to their no luck items, no super-legendary, BlissSkarm only, Final Destination fights.

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GumbyX842

1-20-2008 @ 12:58PM

GumbyX84 said...

I have to agree that hacking IVs and EVs for the "perfect" team has ruined Pokemon online. Personally, I do not like to cheat, but have started using the Quick Hatch Egg and Super EXP gain cheats to speed up my progress. I do stay away from complete Pokemon hacking like illegal movesets and perfect stats, among other things. I know its not "right", but I do not have the time to sit around for hours trying to get one of my Pokemon up to 50 when there are others who do nothing but cheat to get the best.

Then again, have I become on of those people? :begins to think about it:

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Roto133

1-20-2008 @ 11:11AM

Roto13 said...

I don't play games online for many reasons, cheaters and hackers being one of them.

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elsng4

1-20-2008 @ 11:35AM

elsng said...

Roto13 said it all.

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Sherman5

1-20-2008 @ 11:40AM

Sherman said...

Metroid for me. I used Spire in the Council Chamber to climb a wall in morph form to a good sniping point that only Spire can get to. Next thing I know, Sylux is up there with me. Now I don't know if it was actually a hack or just an ability that I don't know about but was really annoying.

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Ethan6

1-20-2008 @ 12:01PM

Ethan said...

I don't get how cheating could be fun. They're ruining it for themselves as much as anybody else.

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Pizza Pasta7

1-20-2008 @ 12:48PM

Pizza Pasta said...

I have a very hard time resisting the urge to snake in Mario Kart but that's really all the "cheating" I do online.

Most of my cheating is done in NESDS where I use the rewind feature to resurrect Mega Man or commit other crimes against nature. 'Tis a disgusting habit but I can't stop.

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Waffala8

1-21-2008 @ 5:20PM

Waffala said...

Guilty, I don't know how anyone beats Quick Man without that.

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Brello9

1-20-2008 @ 1:31PM

Brello said...

Definitely Mario Kart DS. More times than I can count people are either in permanent bullet bill form or have an endless supply of lightning bolts. It got to the point where it wasn't worth waiting for the room to fill up only to have to leave and I just gave up on annonymous wifi altogether. I still use it for friends, of course.

Cheating offline is fine, do whatever you like, it's your game. It's the begging and begging for wifi compatability then destroying it by cheating that doesn't make sense to me.

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Broco Lee10

1-20-2008 @ 1:42PM

Broco Lee said...

I would love a "clean" online game experiences, even if i have to pay for it. It would be great to have a service like the XBOX Live, lagless srvers, almost no cheats and (o nintendo please listen!!!) an eshop to buy games or play demos =).

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Brello11

1-20-2008 @ 1:58PM

Brello said...

Yeah that'd be nice, if only there was a memory card to save those games to.

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zr12

1-20-2008 @ 3:26PM

zr said...

wow..........Nobody mentioned Jump Ultimate Stars?

My friend saw somebody with 4 narutos in the same deck......

and I've seen a three 8-koma one before too........

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Jacob13

1-20-2008 @ 3:33PM

Jacob said...

Had an episode of Wii-cheating online the other night in MoH Heroes 2. We were playing Capture the Flag at the village. Then this player picked up our flag. Naturally, we all rushed to take him down. I died six times shooting at him. Others around me died even more. We tried grenades, we tried sniping him, we tried all getting in a nice knitting circle with machine guns, and yet he would not die. Obvious haxoring there. Needless to say, pretty soon the majority of us just quit the match. We couldn't score on the enemy without our flag, and we couldn't get our flag back because the guy was invincible. So it pretty much ruined the game.

So if you any of you fellows see Cowlover49 and he just so happens to not have invincibility 'turned on', give him my best.


And by the way, cheating or not, Snaking's still a cheap tactic. ;)

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THe Shit14

1-20-2008 @ 4:54PM

THe Shit said...

Its a glitch its not hax. Its a stupid bug that happens in random games. Just vote to kick him out.

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Linka15

1-20-2008 @ 3:35PM

Linka said...

Mario Kart DS. Now, I have no idea if this was a cheat, or just lag abuse, but...

When I was once racing, I would be catching up on a person. Suddenly, they'll just disappear and reappear behind me, and then in the next moment, they'll disappear and reappear even farther than they were before ahead of me. It's pretty annoying, after a while.

And then there was one time when the guy I was against had what seemed to be infinite Stars. That one was definitely cheating. D| Not to mention he was already in front of me while doing it.

Mario Kart DS is fun, even with the snaking habits that a bunch of people do, but it's those little things that ruin the experience a bit.

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raindog16

1-20-2008 @ 4:53PM

raindog said...

I don't know if it counts as cheating because no player was put at a disadvantage, but I periodically would visit a friend's town in Animal Crossing and one time, I went in, and the entire ground was covered in bags of bells, punctuated by the occasional rare item (my favorite was the Pikmin flower box.)

He said I could have whatever I wanted, so I took all the bells I could carry and the Pikmin thing. Later he told me he'd booted into a gamesave that he'd modified to have all that stuff.

It wasn't enough to really speed up most aspects of the game like house upgrades and fossil finding on my end, but I think it ruined the game for him.

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THe Shit17

1-20-2008 @ 4:55PM

THe Shit said...

The game thats worst for hacks is Dragon Quest monsters Joker. Wifi has been totally ruined by it to the point where its unplayable.

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Zack W.18

1-20-2008 @ 5:05PM

Zack W. said...

Cheating offline....no problem. Sometimes it is good for the instant gratification. I remember making really cool codes for Super Mario Bros. 3, and well, I just did not want to die playing Silent Hill. The environment was scarry enough for me...dying would just make it that much worse for me. But when it comes to online, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!! That is just like cheating at cards, or on the golf course, or what have you. You are not cheating hte game, you are cheating people. That is no way to play with others.

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Tommy19

1-20-2008 @ 9:24PM

Tommy said...

I was playing MPH online, and I was getting totally pummeled by this guy playing as noxus. So, running around like a coward, I noticed that he had stopped chasing me. I, naturally took the oppurtunity to attack him, as he had probably put down his DS for a minute. I unloaded 10 or 20 missiles, several charged magmaul shots, and massive amounts of powerbeams- He does not die! He comes back, and brutally murders me!! WTF?!?!?!He obviously was cheating. I was f**king angry!!

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SephFinale20

1-20-2008 @ 10:15PM

SephFinale said...

I didn't have it happen to me specifically, but I was watching one of my friends play Mario Kart DS online...and one of the people was a hacker. He used ShyGuy, my friend and the hacker ended up being the only two left in the race towards the end, and the 4th track they were on was Block Fort. It's more fun to play locally in a public place anyway...

As for cheating in Pokemon....I don't go online enough with it, and I gave up cheating way back with the glitches in Red and Blue versions.

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