Why two versions? Whats the difference between the lite and fat (i refuse to call it the phat).

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Different versions probably for the included GBA slot memory pak, the Lite pak is probably small so it won't stick out.

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Two versions? That sucks. I don't have a Lite yet but I plan on getting one latter this year. In the meantime I'll want to use my phat so I'll have to buy two versions. v_v

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You probably don't have to buy both versions as long as you don't care that the GBA memory pak sticks out the bottom.

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"You probably don't have to buy both versions as long as you don't care that the GBA memory pak sticks out the bottom."

This appears to be true. In the images above, the bottom line on the package for the DS says: "Usable with the Nintendo DS Lite; however, the cartridge will stick out about 1cm."

The bottom line on the package for the DS Lite says: "Compatible with the Nintendo DS Lite only. Cannot be used with the Nintendo DS."

FYI

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Can anyone find where it says Opera on there?

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That brought tears to my eyes... So... beautiful... I'm imagining the future...

But, yes~ Go Opera for recognizing the need for 2 versions :D

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Well obviously the lite version can only be used for the lite. It wouldn't connect to the pins in the phat version.

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This damn well better be cheap.

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What you people do not seem to take into account is the possibility of different hardware. Or perhaps they both use the same hardware but different revisions of the same hardware. (In the tech world this would effectively be considered DIFFERENT hardware.) Or perhaps different firmwares FOR the hardware.

For example... (Just for the sake of argument... A scenario.)

Perhaps the wireless network hardware is using newer firmware.

Note that this would be consistent with the fact that you can use the DS browser software in the DS Lite. The newer firmware in the DS Lite would most likely support all functions of the older firmware revision. That would also mean that the newer software functions of the firmware in the DS Lite version would not work on the older DS's hardware.

Remember though... That was simply an example of a possible scenario. See my point, though?

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What you people do not seem to take into account is the possibility of different hardware. Or perhaps they both use the same hardware but different revisions of the same hardware. (In the tech world this would effectively be considered DIFFERENT hardware.) Or perhaps different firmwares FOR the hardware.

For example... (Just for the sake of argument... A scenario.)

Perhaps the wireless network hardware is using newer firmware.

Note that this would be consistent with the fact that you can use the DS browser software in the DS Lite. The newer firmware in the DS Lite would most likely support all functions of the older firmware revision. That would also mean that the newer software functions of the firmware in the DS Lite version would not work on the older DS's hardware.

Remember though... That was simply an example of a possible scenario. See my point, though?

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I did actually check it out where it was on display at E3. It's dog slow. I doubt I'll be picking it up for myself.

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Jef,

It is not dog slow, its actually very very fast.
and where at E3 did you play it... i was there and saw nothing.

if you don,t believe me, my blog has visual proof i have had my hands on it this week at the opera 9 launch even tin seattle.

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As for price, knowing that Opera is free, chances are we're going to see a $15-$20 from Nintendo/Opera together. Seeing that this is pretty innovative (the whole idea of a slot loading web browser) I'm sure Opera may want a small cut.

Then again, I'm just some guy...

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Unfortunately though, the browser is pretty limited.

"The browser does not reproduce Flash, PDF, animations or sound content."

That really rules out a majority of the things most people use the internet for. I guess you can still read email, articles, webcomics, etc...

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>13

Wow, if that's what the majority of web users are doing, I feel sorry for the future of the internet. I guess that explains why there's no longer information on the internet. Just ads and pr0n.

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No flash? Are you serious?

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that makes no sense.. there should be NO reason for two cartridges. that would mean you can not use Tetris DS, New SMB, or ANY GAME PRIOR TO THIS MONTH with the Lite, unless they releases a seperate version. AND that is a crock.

i call bs.

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"The browser does not reproduce Flash, PDF, animations or sound content."

That's the stuff i have blocked in Firefox anyway. Good riddance! Now if only Opera supported Greasemonkey...

@Neko
Smutt surfing is still doable. We'll just have to settle for pics. =)

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Looks like "gil" has a little trouble reading and understanding.

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